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 Post subject: Re: 1974 - His Master's Voice.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2023 7:34 am 
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Stabbs MacKenzie wrote:
UKRichard wrote:

I wonder to what extent the change in vocals from 1975 onwards was entirely natural, attributable to production styles or simply because lyrics and arrangements just didn't call for the power shown previously. Maybe subtle combinations of all three?



Too many fags and too much booze will do it every time!


Mes Amis,
This is one of those rare occasions when W2 is completement d’accord avec the Stabbeth one.
Our heroes long love affair with Virginia’s favourite crop has doubtless taken its toll.
The only mature chanteurs who have kept their pipes in good order are those who never smoked or those who gave it up when they were relatively young.
W2 remembers Bowie urging Lulu to switch to Marlboro to get some husk into her voice - the madness of it all !
Anyway, happily for us our hero did give it up before it gave him up and the fact that he was always as much a composer, arranger, and stylist as he was a singer has seen him go on to give us such marvellous stuff.
And yes, it was this particular n’er-do-well who suggested, over on the other channel, that ‘Mamouna’ is the best album our hero has done thus far. The reason being because it is !
Salutation a tous,
Windswept.


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 Post subject: Re: 1974 - His Master's Voice.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2023 7:48 am 
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[quote="Sentimental Fool"]
1.… Did someone overhere really rates Mamouna ahead Roxy?! That must be a provocation)

Cher Sentimental,
C’etait W2 et avec raison.
Windswept wasn’t speaking of vocal performance but of the totality of the album. He even puts it ahead of ‘Avalon’.
W2 knows that this will always provoke the ire of the hair-shirted Roxologists but part of his role in life is to speak truth to power.
Salutations,
Windswept.


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 Post subject: Re: 1974 - His Master's Voice.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2023 10:26 am 
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Cher Sentimental,
W2 knows that this will always provoke the ire of the hair-shirted Roxologists but part of his role in life is to speak truth to power.
Salutations,
Windswept.


Ouch, speaking in terms of 'truth' when it comes to art, isn't that an uncomfortable way of self-overestimation?


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 Post subject: Re: 1974 - His Master's Voice.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:31 pm 
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Sentimental Fool wrote:
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Cher Sentimental,
W2 knows that this will always provoke the ire of the hair-shirted Roxologists but part of his role in life is to speak truth to power.
Salutations,
Windswept.


Ouch, speaking in terms of 'truth' when it comes to art, isn't that an uncomfortable way of self-overestimation?


Cher Sentimental,
Mais no - it’s called acerbic self-deprecation.
Malheureusement there are so few practitioners these days.
Salutations,
W2


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 Post subject: Re: 1974 - His Master's Voice.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:58 pm 
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Mais no - it’s called acerbic self-deprecation.
Malheureusement there are so few practitioners these days.
Salutations,
W2

Ah okay, so that means we don't need to take the words of W2 seriously. Nice to know;-)


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 Post subject: Re: 1974 - His Master's Voice.
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Sentimental Fool wrote:
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Cher Sentimental,
Mais no - it’s called acerbic self-deprecation.
Malheureusement there are so few practitioners these days.
Salutations,
W2


Ah okay, so that means we don't need to take the words of W2 seriously. Nice to know;-)


Cher Sentimental,
Only to be taken seriously when discussing all things Ferry !
Salutations,
W2


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 Post subject: Re: 1974 - His Master's Voice.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2023 2:18 pm 
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Only to be taken seriously when discussing all things Ferry !

You make me laugh, 2Windy. Self-deprecation did you say? :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: 1974 - His Master's Voice.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2023 4:56 pm 
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Chers amis!

Comment allez-vous?
Encore une fois... The discussion between W2 and sentimental fool is yet another proof of BF´s genius. Of course no one can decide which era is the best. Still, it´s interesting that we are so divided. Most of all it shows that BF,s ouevre has an enduring quality that goes on from the beginning until this day. I am on le grand W2;s side, Mamouna is something of a roundabout that connects the pathways of BF;s journey. That´s the perspective from my perception. We are different and why not celebrate that fact instead of fight?
Can´t wait for the deluxe edition of Mamouna/Horoscope!
Salutations à tous, Oberon


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 Post subject: Re: 1974 - His Master's Voice.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2023 6:08 pm 
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Just checking in after a week! Feeling complete disregard for my original post about 1974… :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: 1974 - His Master's Voice.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2023 6:11 pm 
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"...rare occasions..."?
Grazie mille Oberon


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